Abstract
John and Elizabeth look back at Recall This Book s 2019 conversation with Zadie Smith, so you may want to listen to that again before proceeding. Elizabeth and John try their best to unpack Zadie Smith s take on sincerity, authenticity and human sacredness; the golden ticket dirty secret behind our hypocritical academic meritocracy; surveillance capitalism as the biggest capital grab of human experience in history; and her genealogy of the novel. If we had to sum the day up with a few adjectives: funny, provocative, resplendent, chill, generous, cantankerous.